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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.06.02 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Yvonne Desire What does Stealing mean? To take something from another that is not yours is that not right?
yes, and following this logic you're stealing from the NPC too.
PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.06.02 21:11:00 -
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because its not your loot inside of NPC wrecks nobody should get flagged for looting NPC wrecks.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.09.30 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Yvonne Desire What does Stealing mean? To take something from another that is not yours is that not right?
right.
But salvage IS NOT yours by game rules, and it should not be changed. Actually, YOU are the one stealing NPCs stuff. Look the player mechanics, there even the LOOT is owned by the player that was killed, the NPC loot rules should be changed the same way.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.10.02 09:26:00 -
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theft is there where CCP says its theft because its their game and rules of playing it.
NPC loot should have no player owner anyways, its NPC stuff. Problem solved and players would have to leave mission hubs if they want all the goodies dropping there for them alone.
Missions need a nerf, not a boost by giving kill rights on salvagers. Fix the loot mechanics, its NPC loot, make the behavior the same like for player loot.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.10.02 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 02/10/2009 10:09:35
Originally by: Fullmetal Jackass It's a sci-fi game. If it's not at least plausible, you lose your audience.
thanks, for this reason salvage is free for everyone, like the loot should be to prevent all the confusing handling inconsistencies of NPC stuff ownership(reason because people feel robbed by salvagers).
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.10.02 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 02/10/2009 13:02:57
Originally by: Fullmetal Jackass Did you actually read the artical you linked? Just because something is abandonded in international waters doesn't mean the original owner can't come claim it if he pays salvor for his work.
where the original owner is still not the wrecker...
Originally by: Fullmetal Jackass
It also doesn't matter because it's not abandonded. In time of war the spoils go to the victor.
its not the question of where the spoils go but of the legal ownership.
Originally by: Fullmetal Jackass
Since you had concord permission to kill whatever ship you just blew up, ownership would transfer to you.
its the current (questionable), contradictory mechanic to the salvage. Now the question. Which one is the proper one? Here we go, the one (me) thinks the salvage is correct, you think the loot mech. is the good one.
Originally by: Fullmetal Jackass
Concord oversees all empire wars after all. So why would concord protect an uninvolved third party when they take your prize from a legal conflict?
if they oversee all empire wars, why should concord give a **** about all the paper work reassigning any ownership crap? Concord doesn't protect, they punish any rule violation threatening lives, and because they dont give a **** about who grabs the stuff, they consider shooting salvagers as a violent action with all consequences. And after all, the salvage is not a prize for you, the bounty is and the loot unfortunately.
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